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		<title>By: alan</title>
		<link>http://www.alanbaxteronline.com/maintain-rage/comment-page-1/#comment-29798</link>
		<dc:creator>alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2012 14:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Michael - you&#039;re quite right about the original intentions of tolerance. I should have made mention of that more clearly in the post. But &quot;tolerance&quot; these days is used to gag dissent and I won&#039;t stand for that. 

And Dave and I discussed character motivation in the latest ThrillerCast largely triggered by my ranting about Prometheus.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael &#8211; you&#8217;re quite right about the original intentions of tolerance. I should have made mention of that more clearly in the post. But &#8220;tolerance&#8221; these days is used to gag dissent and I won&#8217;t stand for that. </p>
<p>And Dave and I discussed character motivation in the latest ThrillerCast largely triggered by my ranting about Prometheus.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.alanbaxteronline.com/maintain-rage/comment-page-1/#comment-29795</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2012 13:43:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Prometheus has inspired that in heaps of people though -- one of the podcasters I listen to spent about 25 mins ranting about all the plot holes in pretty much the same way as you did. Same for many, many blogs that I read. So there&#039;s such a universe of Prometheus-hatred out there that anyone who&#039;s offended at the idea of these rants will end up pearl-clutching their way to a breakdown.

As for tolerance, those who overstretch it should look up the history -- the original idea of historical toleration largely meant not killing or beating the shit out of people for the opinions they hold (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toleration). In which case, I for one think it&#039;s a marvellous idea.

The most annoying thing about the Prometheus defence is if it brings up suspension of disbelief. The reader&#039;s willingness to suspend disbelief is not infinite and must be earned to an extent. It&#039;s not the same thing as ignoring utterly stupid things or gargantuan plot holes or characters that don&#039;t behave anything like characters. In fact, if I could suggest this to go on the podcast ideas list, since there&#039;s always room for thoughtful discussion by authors about suspension of disbelief esp in genre fiction.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prometheus has inspired that in heaps of people though &#8212; one of the podcasters I listen to spent about 25 mins ranting about all the plot holes in pretty much the same way as you did. Same for many, many blogs that I read. So there&#8217;s such a universe of Prometheus-hatred out there that anyone who&#8217;s offended at the idea of these rants will end up pearl-clutching their way to a breakdown.</p>
<p>As for tolerance, those who overstretch it should look up the history &#8212; the original idea of historical toleration largely meant not killing or beating the shit out of people for the opinions they hold (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toleration" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toleration</a>). In which case, I for one think it&#8217;s a marvellous idea.</p>
<p>The most annoying thing about the Prometheus defence is if it brings up suspension of disbelief. The reader&#8217;s willingness to suspend disbelief is not infinite and must be earned to an extent. It&#8217;s not the same thing as ignoring utterly stupid things or gargantuan plot holes or characters that don&#8217;t behave anything like characters. In fact, if I could suggest this to go on the podcast ideas list, since there&#8217;s always room for thoughtful discussion by authors about suspension of disbelief esp in genre fiction.</p>
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		<title>By: The Momus Report</title>
		<link>http://www.alanbaxteronline.com/maintain-rage/comment-page-1/#comment-29781</link>
		<dc:creator>The Momus Report</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2012 10:55:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s another one for your consideration so - http://themomusreport.blogspot.com.au/2012/06/momus-report-podcast-prometheus-or-lets.html

I think my friend Carol puts it best - just because there are interesting ideas referred to, doesn&#039;t make this film interesting - &#039;It&#039;s not everybody gets a trophy day...You don&#039;t get a pass because you thought &#039;oh I&#039;d like to think about the big questions, you actually have to succeed for me to give you a round of applause.&#039;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s another one for your consideration so &#8211; <a href="http://themomusreport.blogspot.com.au/2012/06/momus-report-podcast-prometheus-or-lets.html" rel="nofollow">http://themomusreport.blogspot.com.au/2012/06/momus-report-podcast-prometheus-or-lets.html</a></p>
<p>I think my friend Carol puts it best &#8211; just because there are interesting ideas referred to, doesn&#8217;t make this film interesting &#8211; &#8216;It&#8217;s not everybody gets a trophy day&#8230;You don&#8217;t get a pass because you thought &#8216;oh I&#8217;d like to think about the big questions, you actually have to succeed for me to give you a round of applause.&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Damien</title>
		<link>http://www.alanbaxteronline.com/maintain-rage/comment-page-1/#comment-29751</link>
		<dc:creator>Damien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2012 05:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Maybe I&#039;ll make it four pints then.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe I&#8217;ll make it four pints then.</p>
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		<title>By: alan</title>
		<link>http://www.alanbaxteronline.com/maintain-rage/comment-page-1/#comment-29742</link>
		<dc:creator>alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2012 04:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, I&#039;d seen a lot of negative comments before I went in, so my expectations were pretty low already and I was still insulted by the dumbness!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I&#8217;d seen a lot of negative comments before I went in, so my expectations were pretty low already and I was still insulted by the dumbness!</p>
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		<title>By: Damien</title>
		<link>http://www.alanbaxteronline.com/maintain-rage/comment-page-1/#comment-29741</link>
		<dc:creator>Damien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2012 04:07:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What do you have against drunken chimps?  Grudge Monkey won&#039;t tolerate any of that shit.

I still haven&#039;t seen this movie and now have no intention of forking over my hard-earned to experience it at a cinema, but if or when I eventually do see it I intend to go in with that same tactics I employed before watching The Expendables: have a big feed and a couple of pints beforehand and chuckle my way through.  

I think surviving a crap movie is about having the right mindset going in.  The Blade Runner DVD is always there as backup afterwards.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do you have against drunken chimps?  Grudge Monkey won&#8217;t tolerate any of that shit.</p>
<p>I still haven&#8217;t seen this movie and now have no intention of forking over my hard-earned to experience it at a cinema, but if or when I eventually do see it I intend to go in with that same tactics I employed before watching The Expendables: have a big feed and a couple of pints beforehand and chuckle my way through.  </p>
<p>I think surviving a crap movie is about having the right mindset going in.  The Blade Runner DVD is always there as backup afterwards.</p>
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		<title>By: alan</title>
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		<dc:creator>alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2012 03:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I find the whole debate quite entertaining, but I am still furious about how shit the film was. But at least we agree on that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find the whole debate quite entertaining, but I am still furious about how shit the film was. But at least we agree on that.</p>
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		<title>By: Kareena</title>
		<link>http://www.alanbaxteronline.com/maintain-rage/comment-page-1/#comment-29735</link>
		<dc:creator>Kareena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2012 03:14:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Geez, Alan. You offended me by hating a movie! You bastard. ;)

Clearly I have a sick sense of humour because all of the raging on both sides of the &quot;issue&quot; is just making me laugh my ass off and enjoy the movie more. And by enjoy I mean enjoy laughing at how awful it is. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geez, Alan. You offended me by hating a movie! You bastard. <img src='http://www.alanbaxteronline.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Clearly I have a sick sense of humour because all of the raging on both sides of the &#8220;issue&#8221; is just making me laugh my ass off and enjoy the movie more. And by enjoy I mean enjoy laughing at how awful it is. <img src='http://www.alanbaxteronline.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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